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I’ve been studying/collecting presidential signatures and Eisenhower is interesting.  I know Eisenhower used autopen at different points in his career and there are many different autopen signatures out there.  What do you think of the below signature from a 1958 letter?

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Hi Tyler, 

I would be most uncomfortable buying this as a genuine hand signed. 

It's difficult because the picture is not clear. I think it is a autopen. 

This is one that was on the forum recently. It's a genuine example and close to your image. 

Iles signature is always difficult to verify without the aid of books illustrating known examples of autopen and secretarial etc. 

'I like Ike' 

Regards, 

Mark 

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I've been struggling with this issue (legit, autopen, or secretarial) for 20th Century Presidents myself.  Is there anybody in this group who knows of some good articles or resources for differentiating between real Presidential signatures and secretarial?  It seems like with a close examination, one should be able to detect an autopen but a good secretarial signature is like a good forgery: it will be live ink that looks like the President's signature!  

Kenneth Rendell's Forging History has some examples of secretarials and real signatures of 20th Century Presidents, so that can be a resource, but he glosses over the subject and doesn't explain the key differences.

Member Herman Darvick is very knowledgeable about Presidential autographs and secretarials. It does not appear an Autopen to me.

My first thought also was that it is not Autopen because the flow of the ink seems to change (shape/pen pressure) which would be uncharacteristic of Autopen if I’m not mistaken.  I also couldn’t find an autopen example out there that matched up but you never know.  I’m not familiar with his secretary signatures. 

+1 Exactly re Autopen.

Hi, 

Since the request was for articles and reference material not dealers here is a short list of some books etc. 

The first image is from a dealer that you can visit for a number of books/articles. 

Mark 

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Thanks. But references to dealers or members who are knowledgeable would also be greatly appreciated.  I just want to learn more about identifying the real thing.

There's a Presidential dealer in missouri, I don't know the name but his website looks like 1998 who is very good at this kind of verification. Usually these kinds of letters are either autopen or secretarial and most secretaries can do better ones than the actual person because they need to make it look real.  

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