i 'm a beginner   sorry 

could someone tell me about this  2  autographs ? 

the first

the second 

  thanks a lot for you hepl 

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This is a pretty common forgery style, like you can see for example on the 'sharp' M. Many of them were auctioned at RR-Auction over the last years.

Currently for sale on ebay:
https://www.ebay.de/itm/MICHAEL-JACKSON-11x14-Signed-Photo-PSA-PSA-...


And these two currently on auction at RR-Auction:
https://rrauction.com/bidtracker_detail.cfm?IN=406
https://rrauction.com/bidtracker_detail.cfm?IN=407

Just to be clear, are saying that you believe the current RRAuction Michael Jacksons are forgeries?

Yes imo these two I listed above are not authentic

Thanks Yannick.  I'd love to hear from any other music or Michael Jackson experts on the group as well.  Neither of these are mine, but I have bought a Michael Jackson item from RRAuction before that was authenticated by Roger Epperson, and both of the lots you mentioned are pre-certified by Roger.  

but i don't understand  

how can rr auction  sell   wrong ones ?????    were it's possible to find real ones ?

thanks

It's not the first time that happens. But in my experience, when someone report the fake items, they usually remove them.

Imo RR-Auction is a pretty good auction house to buy MJ autographs. They have a lower percentage of fakes than other auction houses but very frequently Roger Epperson passes fake autographs like these I posted above.
I went through the RR auction archive and found around 20-30 autographs with the same forgery style.

Hi Yannick..So are you saying Roger mistakenly authenticated these or the are fake coas??

Imo Roger mistakenly authenticated them.

Eek that's not good...

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